tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post8660568733333813333..comments2024-03-29T02:28:59.812-07:00Comments on HeavyDisc: Guess what I'm doing.Heavy Dischttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-79953557400513773002016-08-04T16:51:43.028-07:002016-08-04T16:51:43.028-07:00Today I learned what "snap" feels like. ...Today I learned what "snap" feels like. Having tried most every other suggestion on this site, I finally cowboyed-up to do the "uncool" Beto drill, and I crushed some putters. Now if I can only translate this to my full throw...<br /><br />Thanks as always.<br />JJasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209110388974836702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-24769037008898503402016-03-14T13:51:18.188-07:002016-03-14T13:51:18.188-07:00FT. Stilly!!... epic pictures DionFT. Stilly!!... epic pictures DionAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301851920233098007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-77123392875599671902016-01-04T20:16:57.033-08:002016-01-04T20:16:57.033-08:00So helpful, can't even begin to thank you enou...So helpful, can't even begin to thank you enough!! Much appreciated!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14372727090315453300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-32508480874342587102015-10-19T18:04:15.446-07:002015-10-19T18:04:15.446-07:00well done; very helpful!well done; very helpful!philehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00929194661921133497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-66365622382460492202014-09-02T20:07:28.050-07:002014-09-02T20:07:28.050-07:00Thank you for going through the trouble to write t... Thank you for going through the trouble to write this blog and thanks to you i now have ventured into the rabbit hole...I've been playing for about 10 months and i can drive 350-375 on average but am wanting/needing to add that extra 50'...please take a look at my video and criticize! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H29RRpm-TVA&app=desktopJB68408https://www.blogger.com/profile/03944584391032935310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-32718295656498251442014-09-02T02:24:43.230-07:002014-09-02T02:24:43.230-07:00Yeah, I think I'll experiment with the bent el...Yeah, I think I'll experiment with the bent elbow approach. And also try to get my elbow and disc on the same plane. Jarnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498609952519165242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-14992505284039224622014-08-31T01:16:10.481-07:002014-08-31T01:16:10.481-07:00Great blog, thank you!
Interesting point about pr...Great blog, thank you!<br /><br />Interesting point about pros being able to pull amazingly hard from the early backswing. As seen here ( http://youtu.be/3yKRqwcffOE?t=13m18s ), Lizotte is putting tremendous amounts of acceleration from the beginning to get the disc to deform like that.<br /><br />I hope that some day you and I and all of us in search of The Form will be able to do that and still get the timing and everything right!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17784007598190631715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-21293132552517124032014-08-25T08:35:24.560-07:002014-08-25T08:35:24.560-07:00Okay, well 350' tells me that you're proba...Okay, well 350' tells me that you're probably stuck a bit between styles. I think you should either commit to the bent elbow or the swedish style and incorporate all the movements that come with each. I can tell that you're able to pull around the disc, so the next thing (assuming you went bent-elbow) would be to lead with the elbow further out front, which will increase your ability to leverage.Heavy Dischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-26705494406652756552014-08-25T08:29:02.973-07:002014-08-25T08:29:02.973-07:00Thanks Conrad! I am glad it helped get some though...Thanks Conrad! I am glad it helped get some thoughts clicking, I know that all this information has been out there, it was just spread out all over the place and I wanted to try to get it together in a way that makes the most sense possible.<br /><br />In my case, to fix the over-opening of the shoulders came from picking things to look at perpendicular to the line I was throwing on. For a few days, even that wouldn't get it done (I'd just be looking back, while over-opening). I had to video myself and review and then try to make adjustments... it's a very difficult problem to overcome.<br /><br />Eventually I started to feel what forward elbow extension felt like without over-opening and it slowly started getting better. <br /><br />Good luck and please let me know how your progress is going!Heavy Dischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-92068193277868813492014-08-24T11:24:04.601-07:002014-08-24T11:24:04.601-07:00I've been trying to fix my backhand for thirty...I've been trying to fix my backhand for thirty years and can't believe I hadn't found this until now. Fascinating stuff. The old thinking was always to reach back far and pull the disc as fast as you could along a straight line. That makes a lot of sense intuitively, but the modern thinking that emphasizes the motion from the chest forward is much closer to how players throw so far these days.<br /><br />After a promising start (ROY 1985), I developed the backhand yips, also known as a tendency to yank that I couldn't get out of my head. Eventually I switched to sidearm and did okay that way. Most of my technical issues stem from rotating my shoulders too early and/or too much. Your blog makes it clear that the shoulders are not a primary provider of impetus. It's really the acceleration of the forearm lever (I think of the forearm as a line segment, and we want to maximize the acceleration of its endpoint - the hand - using the elbow as a hinge). While practicing - over decades - it became clear to me that getting the elbow out in front is important, but now I know it's crucial. You can still throw well with a sweeping, arcing, rotational type of throw, but the timing is really tricky and you'll need a fast and well-timed snap.<br /><br />For folks like me who tend to pull their throws due to stiffness and overrotation, I've found what I think is a good drill: Set up about fifteen feet behind a bush or tree that is in front and to the right. Line up your body so that the edge is right in front of you. Throw hyzer shots that pass the bush on the left. To do that, you need to get the disc loaded so that you can snap it out toward the left (it feels left, but is actually straight). In a way, it's practicing strong pushes. Helps fight the tendency I have to use rotation to throw. My big mistakes are still shoulder rotation - too early or too much. Trying to think of it as the shoulders don't lead, they follow.Conrad Damonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08997952121010846603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-77892223321296323682014-08-24T11:21:00.568-07:002014-08-24T11:21:00.568-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Conrad Damonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08997952121010846603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-12683417478823498572014-08-24T04:44:22.392-07:002014-08-24T04:44:22.392-07:00Only around 350 feet. The advice I keep getting (f...Only around 350 feet. The advice I keep getting (from Schusterick at his clinic and some local coaches) is to just throw harder. :-)Jarnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498609952519165242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-281886814212910262014-08-23T21:10:02.787-07:002014-08-23T21:10:02.787-07:00I would be happy to do a video review, but honestl...I would be happy to do a video review, but honestly, the Form/Analysis forum at DGCourseReview.com is the best place to get a wide array of feedback. There's quite a few guys who helped me to figure this stuff out over there.Heavy Dischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-2705340119971945932014-08-23T21:06:35.132-07:002014-08-23T21:06:35.132-07:00No, it looks like you're getting a great hit w...No, it looks like you're getting a great hit with a more of a Swedish style that derives quite a bit of power from less elbow and more leverage. Tomas Ekstrom & Feldberg are the 2 big names that throw with a similar style.<br /><br />What kind of distance and accuracy are you getting? Heavy Dischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-88710009557505320222014-08-23T12:45:20.792-07:002014-08-23T12:45:20.792-07:00Great article! I did have one to one driving sessi...Great article! I did have one to one driving session with Blake T, Andrew Gregos and Zachery Jansen and all three said the similar thing as you said above. My main problem is too early shoulder opening which result in half hit (half snap) that gets my disc (MVP Inertia, Tesla) up to 280 to 300 feet under competitive conditions (I got 50th place in Grandmaster in recent Pro Worlds in Portland). Sometimes I focus on "slow in, fast out" and delayed shoulder opening and did feel stronger snap and disc indeed flies to around 320' or so. I would love to hit comfy 350' regularly which I believe very much doable for me. I did the "wall" drill but not much but will do more of this this time. It is true when one finds easier distance via better form, then will need to work on accuracy and ranging, that is nature of this game :) Can you do some video reviews? Jamie Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15427474884604818118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-83170325987013106942014-08-23T04:59:29.680-07:002014-08-23T04:59:29.680-07:00I guess you'd prescribe more elbow extension f...I guess you'd prescribe more elbow extension for me?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1OBXj-4vjY<br />Jarnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498609952519165242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-38349223080230609852014-08-22T19:32:57.795-07:002014-08-22T19:32:57.795-07:00Ben Hogan's pronation and supination of the wr...Ben Hogan's pronation and supination of the wrists in reverse, very interesting.lynxsummhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741283905524334412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-44183537282781171222014-08-21T07:42:01.902-07:002014-08-21T07:42:01.902-07:00Fantastic article. I don't back hand much beca...Fantastic article. I don't back hand much because of terrible form / distance. I can forehand 400 consistently, but can't backhand a driver to save my life. I will give this a try and see if I can add backhand drives into my hand. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09041693591191513934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-31852522807987437322014-08-20T12:14:23.812-07:002014-08-20T12:14:23.812-07:00Thanks EricThanks EricHeavy Dischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-20921311338997853932014-08-20T12:14:13.949-07:002014-08-20T12:14:13.949-07:00Thanks!Thanks!Heavy Dischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-18561886329302874542014-08-20T11:41:15.900-07:002014-08-20T11:41:15.900-07:00Good stuff.Good stuff.EricbnoRakimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10638535304884008932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-87762513877306577822014-08-20T10:55:29.565-07:002014-08-20T10:55:29.565-07:00Will do :)Will do :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08417641121972801643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-79675258092855121252014-08-20T10:18:54.603-07:002014-08-20T10:18:54.603-07:00Very good post. I look forward to tweaking some mo...Very good post. I look forward to tweaking some more things with my form. I really need to video some stuff so I can compare it to the videos you linked. Thanks again.Dr. Chase Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12186770805886983140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-44324260153098856232014-08-18T08:57:35.367-07:002014-08-18T08:57:35.367-07:00Thanks Jed!Thanks Jed!Heavy Dischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09859554566219778845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2026852332372496889.post-9780907616589438102014-08-17T22:21:32.840-07:002014-08-17T22:21:32.840-07:00Excellent break down of what you've gotten out...Excellent break down of what you've gotten out of the hard work you have been doing. <br /><br />Much appreciated! JedVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03041307711683623837noreply@blogger.com